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Two-spirited people 
8th-Oct-2010 01:23 pm
Mao eye
I just came across this short article, and the information contained in it was new to me...

I'd like everyone who has some interest in either native believes/paths, bi-tri-whatever-sexuality, human rights, gays, transgenders, etc etc... to read this. Please do, it won't hurt. Or maybe it will.

"The Two-spirited person is a native tradition that anthropologists have been able to date to some of the earliest discoveries of Native artifacts. Much evidence indicates that Native people, prior to colonization and contact with European cultures, believed in the existence of three genders: the male, the female and the male-female gender, or what we now call the Two-spirited person. The term Two-spirited, though relatively new, was derived from interpretations of Native languages used to describe people who displayed both characteristics of male and female.

Traditionally, the Two-spirited person was one who had received a gift from the Creator, that gift being the privilege to house both male and female spirits in their bodies. The concept of Two-spirited related to today's designation of gays, lesbians, bisexual and transgender persons of Native origins. Being given the gift of two-spirits meant that this individual had the ability to see the world from two perspectives at the same time. This greater vision was a gift to be shared with all, and as such, Two-spirited beings were revered as leaders, mediators, teachers, artists, seers, and spiritual guides. They were treated with the greatest respect, and held important spiritual and ceremonial responsibilities.

The arrival of the Europeans was marked by the imposition of foreign views and values on Native spirituality, family life and traditions. The missionary churches' views on sexuality, for example, created many new taboos. Many traditions, including that of the Two-spirited were eradicated or at least driven underground from many (but not all) tribes of North America. Once honored, some of today's Two-spirited people have been shamed, beaten, killed, isolated and driven from their homes. Dr. Terry Tafoya, a sexologist, storyteller and diversity educator from the Taos Pueblo Nation has warned, "our communities cannot survive if we cut off parts of ourselves". Along with others he has called for the restoration of the inclusion of Two-spirited people back into the circle of original belonging. It is not an accident that Two-spirited people are once again emerging in their communities at the same time and in the same way that the drum, the pipe, the sweat, the medicines and other sacred aspects of community and cultural life are returning.

As a result of the impact of colonization, most Two-spirited people, their families, and the knowledge keepers in their communities today, hold little or no knowledge of the many rich and diverse traditions which recognized, valued and benefited from the special gift these individuals had been given. In consequence, Two-spirited people are not able to take their rightful place in their communities. This is a loss to all Native people."

Source: mcgill.ca

These modern-days humans, all those people who lost their paths... can make me so, so sad...

Humans really do make me sad.


I miss my kind.
8th-Oct-2010 11:52 am (UTC)
Wow,that was so enlightening I might say,the term itself and what the natives did that is so amazing,I guess all modern day humans got their minds poisoned by stereotypes and molds,everything that threatens to change is subject to be treated this way.
8th-Oct-2010 02:08 pm (UTC)
People always have been scared of changes... people probably always will be. And people also have the tendency to destroy what they're afraid of... People, as in, people who have distanced themselves from their roots. Natives usually see much farther.
Ah I might not make sense right now, I guess I should just stop typing >.>
8th-Oct-2010 01:06 pm (UTC)
Humans can do terrible harms to other humans in the name of (misunderstood) religion, there will always be "important" people who want to tell you what you may be or do and what not, what is wrong, what is right - even if this does not have any impact on others.

Today's people are forced into being "adapted" to a society that obviously is so proud of being well-functioning consumers. Consumers not only of trading goods, but - alas - of other human beings and love, too. Marilyn Manson sung about "Disposable Teens" and he was convicted of telling the truth.

Always stay true to yourself, not to society.
Even if this means an everlasting struggle.

Society sucks.
8th-Oct-2010 02:03 pm (UTC)
Oh society... society also shows you what you have to be, shows you what you have to like and love in others, shows you what your preferences have to be, shows you what you need to have, shows you images of yourself.

There are things I like about anarchism, some of its ideas are quite good. Just that anarchism is unlikely to ever function as a system

Always live for yourself, yeah.
A self-made man. Or woman. Or whatever.
9th-Oct-2010 06:02 pm (UTC)
Obviously, we are the same blood ...
You call it anarchy, I used to call it rebellion.
I always was a rebel, from childhood on ... always wanted to be "different", not a typical girl, rather playing with dirt, mud and worms ...
... well, my endless rebellion wasn't always good for me, I know that now ... but I won't stop being against "mainstream" ...

Being "different" means being strong, because you always have to struggle and fight.

Yeah, the best you can do is take care of yourself, always ...
8th-Oct-2010 01:54 pm (UTC)
That's really interesting; it doesn't surprise me, either, because I know that before Christianity for instance, came along, society seemed to be more or less fine with those who didn't fall into the heterosexual category. The natives' "two-spirited" analogy is lovely--and of course exactly opposite to what many other religions think. It just goes to show how differently humans can come to think.
8th-Oct-2010 02:06 pm (UTC)
Yeah. A lot of peoples in the ancient times didn't seem to bother much about gender at all.

And what is it that makes modern religions "believe" it is wrong to love the same gender, or be of both genders, or whatever? Gender is only needed for reproduction, not for love... which makes me see parallels in 'religion' and the state, wanting reproduction... and cannon fodder. Oh lovely world.
8th-Oct-2010 02:12 pm (UTC)
I wouldn't say "modern" because they've been around a long time too. Unless you're just talking about Mormons and the like. Those crazies.

I think that since those religions promote such prudishness, they truly believe sex should only be for reproduction (probably started by some guy who either couldn't get laid, or had a really bad experience... maybe a bad gay experience). So no, in my opinion, they definitely didn't see sex as love at all, no matter what they say. If they did see it as love, they wouldn't give a damn whether the sex was with the opposite gender or their own. In any case... we've already made quite a bit of progress on the issue and I don't see that progress slowing down at all in the coming years.
8th-Oct-2010 05:15 pm (UTC)
Yeah, unfortunately that progress, or most of it, only really takes place in a small number of countries, compared to the vast amount of countries/states there are in which anything but heterosexuality is seen as wrong. I'm glad for the progress in the countries where there really has been some... and sad for those who have to hide what and who they are... gah, anyway. We'll see where'll this all take us to. It's one part of the future I'm eagerly expecting to see how it'll turn out x'D
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